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来自国际自行车赛场上的员工 | 卫门&吉翁

Date:16.10.31

by chinabike_Rocky

采访&图片:王中,王旭腾



我们有幸在位于上海的中国迪卡侬总部见到了来自新加坡迪卡侬的卫门(Wai Mun)和吉翁(Ji Wen),他们两位都是曾经征战于国际赛场的全职职业自行车运动员,这次因为中国的格兰枫度比赛特意来到了上海迪卡侬中国总部,我们也没有放过这个采访他俩的好机会。基于他们的职业运动员经历和现任的职务,我们与他们交流了一些问题,接下来我就一起看看吧。


 
左:吉翁(Ji Wen),右:卫门(Wai Mun)
 
卫门(Wai Mun)曾是一位职业运动员,有过5年单人双桨皮划艇运动员的职业生涯。在2009年的亚洲锦标赛斩获第六名,在2010年的广州亚运会中获得第九名,紧接着在2011年的东南亚运动会中拿下第五名的成绩。之后职业生涯发生改变,在2012年转入自行车运动中,在他的自行车运动员生涯中,曾在日本的马牌(Continental)自行车中央修道院进行训练,并参加得过2015年的亚洲单车锦标赛。他是在一次网络购物时了解到的迪卡侬这个品牌,目前在新加坡的第二家迪卡侬商店的自行车B'twin部门自行车与维修团队中担任经理一职。


 
Q1:
CB:Hello Wai Mun,we know you were a rower,and did it for a very long time,can you tell us something about that?
CB:你好卫门(Wai Mun),我们知道你曾经是个皮划艇运动员,并且从事这项运动很久了,你能跟我们聊聊皮划艇那些事儿吗?
 
Mun:I start rowing in 2008,after I graduate form university. I wanted to do it full time,because I thought it was cool. I know a few rowers back then, and it give me an outlook on what is possible in professional sport,so I thought just give it a try. And after an year or so,I try to qualified for Olympics,for rowing,and try to build my career on it,to see where I can go from then. When I start rowing in Singapore,there is only two person,me and an another lady,she was like my mentor,and after she retired,I was only one left with few juniors. And some other guys,but they would not want to do it full time. So I am the only one for full time professional racer back then.
 
Mun:2008年,我正式加入皮划艇运动,那是在我刚毕业之后。我想要做一个全职的皮划艇运动员,因为我觉得那会很棒。那时候我认识了一些皮划艇运动员,也让我对职业运动员的生活有了一些展望,于是我想尝试一番。大约一年之后,我开始向奥运会皮划艇运动进军,后来,我的运动职业生涯开始了。当初在新加坡我开始进行皮划艇运动的时候,我们只有两位运动员,一位女士和我,这位女士对于我来说就像是导师一样,在她退役了以后,就只剩下我和一些年轻的运动员了。还有其他一些人也玩皮划艇,但是他们并不想成为全职的皮划艇运动员,唯独我是。


 
Q2:
CB:After rowing,you jumped in to cycling,how do you made this decision?
CB:那么在皮划艇运动之后,你加入了自行车运动,你是怎么做出的这个决定呢?
 
Mun:During the rowing time,I meet few bumps,and some other things. So I thought I’d better move on,so I thought go cycling. And there is a lot of rowing athletes moving to cycling,it’s kind of nature transition,it is quite close linked. A lot of sport athletes doing rowing then want to cycling international. Some other rower I know also went to cycling and I was still relatively young back then,So I thought just give it a try.
Mun:在我划皮划艇的那段时间里,我遇到了一些障碍和困惑。所以觉得我最好继续前进,做点其他的事情,于是我开始骑车了。同时也有不少皮划艇运动员选择转业为自行车运动员,这有点像一种自然的转变,因为这两项运动联系很紧密。国际上也有不少皮划艇运动员后来选择自行车运动。我认识的一些皮划艇运动员后来也去骑自行车了,出于自己年轻的考量,所以我就决定尝试一下。
 
Q3;
CB:You said this two sport is quite close,so what is relationships like between this two sports?
CB:你说这两项运动很相近,那么这两项运动之间的关系到底是怎么样的呢?
 
Mun:Main differences will be,rowing,you doing on the water,and cycling,you ride on the road. But muscly and physiological,they are quite similar,like rowing is a lot of lower half part of body,a lot of movement,a lot of pushing.,It is the same thing with the bikes. so in terms of muscles,it is quite similar,and rowing does looks like a lot arm movement,but the majority effort you putting on your boat is actually from your leg. And the speed you are doing this two sport is different,but the way you execute it is quite similar.
Mun:这两项运动最主要的区别是,皮划艇是在水上的,骑车是在路上。但是从发力和生理学的角度来说,这两项运动还是很接近的,皮划艇基本都是要用到下半身,下半身会活动的比较多,有很多推的动作,这和骑车是一样的。那么说到了肌肉发力,这两者非常的像,虽然皮划艇的动作看起来有很多手臂的运动,但是大部分的力量其实还是从你的双脚上发出的。还有就是这两者的速度不太一样,但是动作都差不多。
 

 
Q4:
CB:So based on your racing career,do you have any thing to say to the Chinese athletes?
CB:那么根据你作为职业运动员的这一段经历,你有什么相对中国的运动员们说的吗?
 
Mun:I think if you enjoy of what you are doing,if you want to race,you have to be out there,you have to put yourself out there. If not,you will never know what you will achieve. But if the moment you stopped enjoying,then you have to reassess why are you doing this sport. But main advise I will give you is to enjoy the process,rather than think about where you want to go,just enjoy the company you are in,and the surroundings you have,and the sport.
 
Mun:我认为享受你现在正在从事的运动很重要,如果你想参加比赛,那就去做,置身于赛场上拼搏。如果你不这样做的话,你永远都不会知道自己达到什么水平。但如果你选择放弃它,不在享受自行车运动,那么你就要重新想想当初是为何选择它了。不过最重要的一点建议,就是你要享受这项运动的一个过程,而不是总想着去哪里,接下来做什么。只要享受你现在这个公司(车队)从事工作的乐趣,还有你周围的环境,和这项运动就好了。


 
Q5:
CB:After several times of job changing,you must have a lot of experience now,dose that benefiting the joy your are having in Decathlon now?
在经历了几次工作变迁之后,你一定累积了不少经验了,那么这对于你目前在迪卡侬工作有帮助吗?
 
Mun:Well,it helps in quite few ways. like balancing between work and sport,you will focus a lot more。If you are work,you will like what do you want to achieve,you will put yourself on some targets。I think that is some thing as athletes have advantage of,you know because we are so process driven,on the other day,we want to see the outcome as well。I think That is the skills you will have,but you will not learned at school,and not necessary pick up at work if you are in average day and night job。I think that discipline that focus helps being at work,and also being athlete at past,it helps you relate both consumers between B'twin and Decathlon。And you have the experiences,you can tell the consumers you are not just selling them the products,I try to share the experiences of the products,and how you can affect your life in sports,and how sport can affect your life in a positive way.
Mun:当然了,这对于我的工作有多方面的帮助,平衡工作和运动的关系,能让你更有精力和集中注意力。就像是工作,你会想要达成一些事情,你会给你自己制定一些目标。运动员们所擅长的事情,会皆尽可能去达到制定的目标,我们也非常想在某一天看到我们努力的结果。这种技能是你从运动员的经历里可以学到的,在学校里是学不到的,也是在普通的早起晚归的工作中学不到的。我觉得这种纪律性和更好的注意力,能对我的工作有很大的帮助,同时拥有这一段运动员的经历,能让我与B’twin和迪卡侬的顾客有更好的关系。因为你有过这些运动器械的使用经历,你能告诉消费者你不单单是想卖给他们一样产品,而是和他们分享产品的使用感受,还有如何生活和运动结合在一起,运动会如何改积极地变你的生活。
 
Q6
CB:We know Decathlon is now expanding rapidly in Asia,so what will be it like working in a Decathlon store?
CB:我们知道现在迪卡侬在亚洲发展的非常快速,那么在迪卡侬商店里工作会是什么样子的呢?
 
Mun:Come in the Decathlon,the Decathlon’s culture is a eye opener,it is different structure and culture to what traditional most retail or non-retail organization will do,I think that is culture suits me quite well. And I think give the freedom and responsibility to every one in the store is the direction we are moving towards,so everybody is like their own kind of boss,everybody has the part to play in the group and the company,and that freedom as well as the responsibility we give to our teammates allows them to take their ownership running their part in the department。It is open minded,we allow for open decision making,as long as you take responsibility of that decision,that is fine. We come from there,everyone make mistakes,and if you don’t make a mistake,you never get better. The import thing we educate is learning form the mistakes,never make the same mistake again.
Mun:加入迪卡侬之后,迪卡侬的文化使我大开眼界,这和传统的零售或是非零售集团的结构和文化完全相同,这里的文化非常适合我。我认为给予店里每一个员工自由和责任是我们现在前进的方向,这样所有人就像是自己的老板一样,每个人都能在团队和公司里扮演好自己的角色,同时给予给每一个人的这种自由和责任感,也能让他们在自己部门里有一种主角感和归属感。我们的思想非常开放,允许员工们自己做决定,只要你对你自己做的决定负责,那就没有问题。我们都是这样一路过来的,谁都会犯错,如果一个人不犯错他就不会进步。重要的是我们要告诉大家要从错误中吸取经验教训,别再犯同样的错误。
 

 
吉翁(Ji wen)曾在他13岁时参加了他人生中的第一场半程马拉松比赛,同时他也作为职业公路车运动员在UCI职业公路车队中待了8年时间,然后在2010成为了公路车、山地车和铁人三项的教练。他还曾与卫门(Wai Mun)在新加坡的一家体育训练公司一起担任教练一职,之后在卫门(Wai Mun)的邀请下通过面试和选拔也加入了迪卡侬,目前在迪卡侬的自行车部门任职。


 
Q1:
CB:Hello Ji Wen,you have being in the UCI professional road cycling team for 8 years,so do you had the target or plan for the future back then?
CB:你好吉翁(Ji wen),你曾经在UCI职业公路车队带了8年的时间,那么那时候你有什么目标或是未来的规划吗?
 
Wen:When I started,I always wanted to race the Tour De France,the every road cyclist dreamed of. And along the way,I changed that,I just want to be a professional first,and when I achieve that,I started to thinking become professional Europe,and after that,I just want to achieve more.
Wen:当我刚开始骑公路的时候,我总想着参加环法大赛,这也是每个公路车手都梦想的事情。然后慢慢的,我改变了这个想法,我只想先成为一个职业运动员,当我达成了这个目标之后呢,我又想成为一名欧洲车队的职业运动员,在那之后,就想一步一步往上走,越走越好吧。


 
Q2:
CB:We see a lot of people in Decathlon were come form sport area,is it benefit a lot if someone is come from sport area,than work in Decathlon?
CB:我们在迪卡侬见到了不少从运动领域来的员工,那么如果是从运动领域转到迪卡侬的话,会有什么帮助吗?
 
Wen:Yes,definitely. I think for us,even the members of the store itself,you know,we learned a lot from this sports,and it just increases our sporty knowledge,it help us to share more to many more people as well.
Wen:绝对会有帮助的。我觉得对我们来说,甚至是商店里的员工,你知道的,我们从运动中学到了很多东西,而这些东西都会帮助我们增加关于运动各方面的知识,这能够帮助我们向更多的人分享更多关于运动和器材的经验。


 
Q3:
CB:When Decathlon is selling its products,it also put some energy in the sport area,like sponsor something,what do you think of that?
CB:当迪卡侬在销售产品的同时,也放了一部分精力到运动领域里去了,比如赞助一类的事情,你对此有什么看法呢?
 
Wen:I think we general don’t do a lot of sponsorship and marking of our own brand,of our product. That is actually so we can use the money we saved and give it back to the consumers,so it is like if we don’t spend that money,our product will be cheaper.
Wen:通常情况下我们不会做很多的赞助,或者是产品品牌推广和营销广告方面的事情. 这实际上是因为我们可以节省下这一笔钱然后再反馈给消费者,就像如果我们不花这笔钱,我们就可以把我们的产品做的更便宜一样。
 

 
这次与卫门和吉翁两人采访的时间虽然有限,但是我们从他们的身上看到了Decathlon旗下B’twin等多个品牌的执行理念。出于运动是与普通老百姓息息相关的原则,大量的职业运动员将自己的切身体验和先进理解,通过这个品牌传递给了千家万户。
 
相信外门和吉翁两个人的经历和看法给了大家不少启发,也希望大家能够通过这次的采访更好更多的了解迪卡侬这个品牌。虽然他们不擅长做广告,但是他们的每一样产品的质量和实用性我们都有目共睹。同时我们也通过去过法国迪卡侬总部的吉翁了解到,虽然目前迪卡侬没有推出顶级骑行产品,但是有不少原型和测试车辆早就已经做出来了,并且在性能与质量上完全不输给目前的一些世界顶级品牌的旗舰产品。而目前迪卡侬没有推出如此产品的原因只是他们希望先推广市场,让更多的人了解骑行,享受骑行,加入到骑行运动这个大家庭中来。

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